>> i think both are. >> sean: give me an equivalent. >> it works. >> sean: give me the equivalent. >> well, mitt romney, to his credit, i will give him that, when everyone is questioning the president's birthplace -- >> there's one simple reason they have to do that, because they can't talk about the record. he promised to cut the deficit at the end of his first term. he's blown a hole in the deficit large enough to drive a mack truck through. >> sean: i want to go to ralph's point here. this president said the republicans want dirty air and water, that mitt romney is pretty much a murderer, they want kids with autism, down syndromes and the elderly to fend for themselves. this president has never been asked why he said those things and why he believes them. >> it's simple. there's 23 million giving up looking for work. you engage in personal attacks on your opponent. it's not going to work. i'll tell you why, it's not going to work because the failed economic record of this president, and it's not going to work because he's out of step with the values of mainstream perq. it doesn't h